""Have to pass the bill before we can find out what is in it."

Taken totally out of context, as I said before.

"The Senate just locked out the minority party and then complained when they did not support what the Dems had come up with with NO Rep input."

THAT is something between a distortion and an outright lie. Even when the Dems DID attempt to compromise and include the input the Reps said they wanted, the Reps voted against it! Many times they voted against their own stated positions. The whole point was to to deny Obama ANY victories, and then call him a failure.

You will remember that when Bush was in, he used signing statements and other 'legal' but sneaky tricks to shove thru almost anything he wanted...and even after a narrow victory in 2004, he stated that he "had a mandate" to run things HIS way. I can just imagine the apoplectic Repub faces if Obama had tried that!

You, Bruce, go on at length about 'double-standards', but you never seem to see that the phrase "we are the current majority party, and it is OUR turn to legislate" seems to apply only to Republicans. IF they again become the majority party, we will see how they interpret 'being in power'.