No McGarth! I'm thuroughly conditioned to my culture and the outcome is what I would have desired it to be, I am a Christian first and know that God's love is to all of mankind and that He reveals Himself to the humble and resists the proud. What I am saying is that it is hubris to condemn an "easy" historical target in the light of history and having seen the results, the cause and effect relationshjp of so much that was unknown to those who lived through it. You know, it's kind of the forest and tree thing. It's not until you're out of the woods that you begin to see the nature of the forest, the terrain and all. And, of course, we ought to learn from history but do we? Do we not realize that we are in our own forest, struggling to see the bigger picture?

No one (meaning me) is trying to obfucate the picture. Rather I would hope that you all see contrast, point and counter-point for you musical types. We ALL tend to look at things through our "me" colored glasses and we seldom stop to think that those glasses were handed down to us. Our language and culture are loaded with hidden bias which can be polarizing, to extend the metaphor,

Tread lightly on the graves of those who fought valiantly for their beliefs. You do not know what some future generation will say about your own values that lie with you beneath the sod.