steve-i can see where some of your earlier anti catholic rants come from now.thats not a judgement on my part-we do get some knocks in life that colour our outlook.if not for my faith system i would have some bitterness too.[not claiming all atheists are bitter]
once again you give challenges,which you decline yourself.if i read greatest show in history-would you read the greatest hoax in history?.being so scientific,it would be easier for you than me.

john talking of fantastic claims-how about all came from nought with out any proof,or even much idea how?God of the gaps?-would that be mine or the great theory of evolution?