Yeah, I've heard what the plan is, Jack, but I don't buy it. Not for a moment. Maybe Obama buys it...I can't say for sure about that.

The USA, as far as I'm concerned, is morally obligated to evacuate any and all countries that it has illegally invaded and garrisoned on false pretences of "defense", and that includes Afghanistan.

Canada, likewise, is complicit in this aggressive war and occupation policy, and I criticize my own country's government and that of the UK equally stringently in this matter. We are morally obligated NOT to invade and occupy countries that did not, have not, and could not attack us even if they wanted to. We are morally obligated also to pay them very large war reparations for what has been done to them by our war policy. That's war reparations to be paid by the USA, Canada, and the UK to Afghanistan, and war reparations to be paid by the USA and the UK to Iraq.

Dennis Kucinich agrees with me on that. So does Ron Paul, I think. The US government, however, will never agree to it, because they are incapable of admitting to being an aggressor and a war criminal. So, I fear is my own government, and the UK. Not one of them has the guts or honesty to do that. They would only do it, as Germany did, after being defeated and occupied themselves and forced to do it by the victors, and that's obviously not going to happen.