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Thread #133340   Message #3025091
Posted By: Little Hawk
06-Nov-10 - 10:50 AM
Thread Name: BS: GW Bush IS a war criminal!
Subject: RE: BS: GW Bush IS a war criminal!
Yes, 999, there were other countries complicit as well in fighting that war. I didn't bother to mention all of them, but just the major contributors to it. They should probably all pay reparations to Afghanistan, to the extent of their actual involvement in the operation.

I believe the Afghan war was unjustified for these reasons:

1. 911 was not an act of war by one sovereign nation against another...it was a criminal act by a small group of conspirators who operated independently of any sovereign government or nation...and whose plans were not sanctioned by any sovereign government or nation.

2. Therefore, the response to 911 should not have been a military invasion of Afghanistan, it should have been a criminal investigation to gather evidence, find the planners and perpetrators of 911 who were still living, and arrest and try them. The government of Afghanistan was very likely just as astonished as anyone else when 911 occurred. They did not plan it, and it was certainly not in their interests that it should have happened.

3. 911 may have been partially planned, aided, and abetted by various Black Ops and government people in the USA. There is much evidence which seems to suggest that (although that evidence is disputed, naturally). There is an association of New York firefighters and survivors of 911 who believe that the 2 towers and building 7 were brought down by controlled demolition...not just by being hit by airplanes. If they are right, and they may be, then the war on Afghanistan was an opportunistic and fraudulent war designed to divert attention from the real planners of 911 and secure imperial objectives in that region...such as controlling an area of strategic passes to Russia, China, India, Pakistan, Iran, and the Caspian region....an area that major empires have repeatedly tried to occupy and control. I do not believe that 911 was even the real cause of a war in Afghanistan, I think it was the excuse....America's Reichstag Fire, in effect.

4. You do not attack an entire country because some people hidden in some training camp out in the boondocks plan and launch a criminal attack on the other side of the world. I'll give you an example: the USA has a number of camps where the CIA trains paramilitary forces and saboteurs and assassins who are then sent down to Latin America and other parts of the world to fight dirty wars, topple governments, murder thousands of people, and change regimes. That's terrorism. NO ONE has invaded and attacked the entire USA because of these repeated acts of terrorism that emanate from the USA, even though they ARE (secretly) sanctioned by the US government. The Afghan government did not sanction the 911 attacks, did not plan them, and did not want them. It is insane to attack Afghanistan, the nation, because a few Saudis and other Arabs had a camp somewhere in Afghanistan and may have planned 911.

5. The Afghan government offered to arrest and try Bin Laden if the USA would provide evidence that he had planned 911. The USA ignored that offer, because the USA had no intention of avoiding fighting a war of occupation in Afghanistan, a war which the USA had been planning for some time before 911 even happened. 911 was the catalyst to get the American public to a agree to that war, and it worked beautifully.

6. The whole world felt tremendous sympathy for the USA right after 911. I know I did. So a lot of countries were easily convinced to join a coalition to help the USA in its war. They were suckered in when they did that. The war was unjustified. It should never have happened. International police work should have been used to thoroughly investigate 911 and track down those responsible and put them all on trial. That's what you DO when you have been attacked not by a navy, army, and air force...not by a sovereign government or nation, but by a little group of conspirators supposedly using boxcutters!