i can see a case for invading afghanistan, i wouldn't have done it , or voted for it , but t hey were openly harbouring bin laden and other active islamic fascist militants. iraq on the other hand was a war crime from start to finish. the real rigures for civilian deaths and the total disregard for the cultural icons and the resources of the country are appaulling.   robert fisk --likely the only realyy independant journalist out there-- did bagdad morgue body counts for civilians and if extrapolated over the whole country would ammount to seven hundred thousand dead, and that was a few years ago.

he abolished habeaus corpus --without a whimper, and violated the constitution in the use of executive authority. the worst such abuse since the aforementioned andrww jackson--a war criminal and genocidal racist if there ever was one for what he did to the cherokee and other natives up rooted on the trail of tears. however america never self examines.

it would be nice if bush could be charged internationally but i don't think america recognizes the authority of the war crimes commission over their citizens.

the total fantasy that many american are living in now got them to vote for a party that nackrupted their country in an illegal and criminal war and left the mess for obama is amazing, but chris hedges has it right. america is an empire os illusion. it looks like it will take two more crashed before people wake up and see that the people they are turning to to cure the problems are the cause of the problems.