I was talking about having a lover, or lovers, with whom I have sex. In that instance I'd rather have sex without love than love without sex.

I love my kids and don't have sex with them, so I wasn't talking about that kind of love.

Remember, this is a thread about sex, rather than about love. Or such was the intention.

I find it fascinating that we aren't estrous. I have no idea when the change happened in evolutionary terms - bonobos are the closest thing, but they still have estrus, and when they have "sex" they don't usually go all the way to climax.

I have a pet theory about the female orgasm, though: I wouldn't be surprised if that's why all the other hominids went extinct. Imagine having the intelligence to know where babies come from - why would any female hominid put up with it without orgasm, given the loss of estrus? But that is for another thread...