Richard, am I to gather that you can't relate to having an extended friendship with a woman that doesn't involve sex? I'm not talking about being a "couple" here, I'm talking about friendship. I've had friendships with various females that have lasted decades, and no sex between us. Why? Because they're my friends, that's why, people I like to talk to, people I enjoy being around, people I've shared a lot of experiences with. Matter of fact, I find that the friendships generally last far longer than the love affairs do, which indicates that friendship has a much stronger basic foundation than sexual attraction does. Sexual attraction's ephemeral. It's of the moment. Friendship tends to last. You can have sex with a vibrator or an anatomically correct doll, but you can't have friendship or a real relationship with a vibrator or an anatomically correct doll. It's not alive. ;-)