I don't feel the students have lost *any* points. They've focussed people's minds, woken many up, even through indignation...and..they'll have given others courage to voice their anger too.

We have all been silent for way too long.

Arthur, I've written to Joe, so hopefully, this will get sorted out. I just need to highlight to others what this person is really about, because some were taking him seriously. Apologies for taking your thread off track.