Pete, scientists don't debate with Creationists because Creationism isn't science. There is no controversy about this outside the minds of people like yourself. If you want to take part in discussions outside your church, you need to get educated. Creationism is the exact opposite of science because it starts with a conclusion and then assigns "evidence" to support it. Completely backwards from the scientific method. There is no such thing as "Creation Science" and it's a waste of everyone's time when you keep trying to insert it into a serious discussion.