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Thread #133350 Message #3029783
Posted By: Stringsinger
11-Nov-10 - 06:07 PM
Thread Name: BS: The Atheist Delusion
Subject: RE: BS: The Atheist Delusion
Reading the Wiki on Fanny Crosby, I think that from what limited knowledge I have of her life, whether she believed or not, she would have been a person of letters and a songwriter.
This issue is no longer just a personal one. There are too many who are in judgement of an atheist view and express it with hostility, and attempt to discredit it. That is why these threads are so long. It is a problem of tolerance and understanding. To effectively reach an atheist conclusion, most people who reach this have gone through religious training and found it wanting. I have investigated many different religions and as a result have decided that none of them work for me. As to the notion of a supreme being, this is such an amorphous and unclear idea that when people talk about it, it becomes confusing and contradictory. To deny that one exists requires a definition of what it is that seems to be beyond any consensus or description that makes sense. The definition becomes a chameleon which changes its illusive shape depending on who offers it as their belief.
One of the problems is that a definition of a supreme being requires an absolute that is impossible to prove. Absolutes are not negotiable whereas there is nothing absolute about non-belief. If someone can prove there is a singular supreme being or a pantheon of gods through any scientific evidence, most atheists I know would be open to being convinced. But since this evidence has never been forthcoming in any rational form, it must be concluded that this evidence doesn't exist.