The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #18820   Message #3032833
Posted By: JohnInKansas
15-Nov-10 - 02:05 PM
Thread Name: Origin: Rough and tough and hard to bluff
Subject: RE: Origin: Rough and tough and hard to bluff
Some time ago I worked with fellow whose prior job had been with a major US paper manufacturer. He related that anyone travelling on company business was expected to bring home "samples," especially of the toilet papers found at various places around the world. Documentation of the time and place of collection were of course required.

As he described it, they would have "group sessions" where the various samples would be passed around for examination and discussion.

He reported that at one session someone described "a British sample" as "Real John Wayne Paper."

"It's rough and tough and don't take sh*t off of anybody."

About a decade later the "John Wayne Paper" description had become fairly well known, but his story was the first place I heard it, ca. 1959.