hi smokey-seems i have limitations in science and you in theology.i think dawkins makes a similar argument.he either lacks understanding on that subject or perhaps ignores it.

the creator God described in the bible is eternal so no one made him.being all powerful he spoke creation into being.i am quite aware that this is a non provable doctrine scientifically but perfectly reasonable if the existence of God is at all allowed.evolution certainly has no proven answer either.as i posted earlier,everything that has a beginning must have a sufficient cause.that cause would need to be spirit/supernatural or would itself need creating,thus pushing the problem further back and unresolved
i am aware that atheists dismiss this as "god of the gaps"but they have nothing better to offer.

i should mention that i am not defending the pope.i am not qualified on that subject,though you may well be right.