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Thread #133746 Message #3037525
Posted By: josepp
21-Nov-10 - 03:33 PM
Thread Name: BS: Hamlet and the Christmas Tradition
Subject: RE: BS: Hamlet and the Christmas Tradition
We kid ourselves all the time about people we want to believe were real. There are how many millions of Christians? Let's go over some facts about the historical Jesus:
--No one can prove there was ever a slaughter of innocents perpetrated by Herod.
--No one can prove there was any such census taken in that region.
--There are no references to this Jesus person by any writers in his time or the generation after.
--Nazareth didn't exist in the times that Christ supposedly lived. Origen couldn't find evidence of it.
--Josephus was governor of Galilee and never mention this Jesus ever walking there and made no mention of Nazareth. Neither did Paul.
--Philo Judaeus developed the concept of the Logos made flesh, was a confidante of Pontius Pilate and was living in Jerusalem at the very time Jesus was supposedly crucified there. He also wrote a biography of Pilate covering his governorship of Judea. He never wrote a word about Jesus or the Christians.
--Many of the cities and towns mentioned in the gospels have never existed including Capernaum. The geography and layout of town mentioned is often completely wrong indicating the gospel authors knew nothing about that region of the world.
--We also are told that Paul was traveling around spreading the word of Christianity but his own letters show us that he was met by enclaves of Christians to greet him everywhere he went. Justin Martyr in the 2nd century wrote about the spread of Christianity in the first century and never mentioned Paul. So what was Paul's mission--a man who seemed to know nothing about any historical Jesus?
--Isn't it odd that the man Christians call their savior happens to have a name that means "savior"? Especially when a prophecy in Matthew stated that his name would be Emmanuel?