But Steve, if this power exists, only he can reveal himself to you in ways he chooses. I can state that I've seen enough in my life to convince me my previous scientific and atheist beliefs were flawed but I can not show you he is there any more than you can prove to me he is not there. As I think Amos hinted at, we can just wind up battering at brick walls when we try.


I do argue with you over your use of terms like celestial teapot. It does wind me up, make we want to argue to prove I am right even though it can get nowhere but I find things like that unnecessarily insulting.