interesting thread. I don't know everyone wants to fight. Josepp presented an argument. In Mathematics we do that all the time and then try to prove or disprove it using Mathematics .. Having spent a lifetime with numbers I am always amazed at the patterns that emerge . I do not believe in any form of numerology, but I do find chaos theory quite interesting. He presents his ideas about the number 5. I cannot concur with it but I find it interesting to do some fractal work .. kinda fun actually ... so why the hard feelings? don't understand