Yeah, lotta people say that the unCivil War had already begun when Lincoln took office and to a certain extent, it had... But Lincoln had choices that could have de-escalated the conflict... Re-supplying Ft. Sumpter was one such choice and rather than de-escalate, Lincoln went the path of greater hostility... That was 100% on Lincoln...

I mean, there was an international movement to end slavery going on starting in the 1840s... Pressures would have ended slavery here in the US (notice I didn't say "the South" but the "US") had the war been averted...

(Horrors, Boberdz!!! You sound like you are pro-slavery!!!)

Bull feathers... I am pro-humanity and looking back on what occurred I doubt that anyone who is pro-humanity can argue that the costs were worth it... That's why I don't go to battle fields or glorify this terrible failure of mankind...

B~