Yes, Ake, I provided links. Obviously, you either didn't read them, or if you read them, you didn't understand them.

The people involved in the Coffee Party are quite varied in their positions, but they tend to lean to the progressive, and they are ALL dedicated to calm, rational discussion. AND, they are all well-educated and very up on what's going on in the country. And the world.

One of the things they are very much in agreement about (which you would have picked up on if you had actually read the links) is a deep concern about how "buyable" the government is and who's doing the buying. And they are not happy about it.

Anthropologist Margaret Mead once said, "A small group of people can make a difference. In fact, that is the only thing that ever has made a difference."

I'm not as pessimistic as you are. Nor am I as eager for bloody revolution. It can be done without having to resort to that.

I knew a fair number of people back in the Sixties who were on the extreme left. They would sit around together in the back room of the Blue Moon Tavern, they would talk just like you and Little Hawk, and they would tolerate no discussion of any possible solution except bloody revolution. They positively salivated at the prospect.

Of course when the first shots rang out they would be cowering under the tables.

Don Firth

P. S. I do tender my sincere apology to all newts everywhere.