The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #134573   Message #3062996
Posted By: Q (Frank Staplin)
28-Dec-10 - 09:28 PM
Thread Name: D'jango and Gypsy Jazz, Is it folk music
Subject: RE: D'jango and Gypsy Jazz, Is it folk music
The 'gypsy music' most people know is professionally played music of Austria-Hungary-Bohemia. It is European-based with elements developed by the gypsy musicians that entertained in the cafes and elsewhere, but has little of gypsy music (see Jack Campin, above).

Similarly, 'flamenco' was Andalucian, with of course Moorish and Sephardic Jewish contributions from their long dominance in the Andalucian area until they were kicked out or forced to convert by Isabella and Ferdinand at the end of the 1400s. It has many variations, one in the verdiales of Murcia (perhaps the source of the castanets often used by gypsies).

Gypsies moved into Spain not long before this time; gypsy professionals developed much of what we call gypsy flamenco in the 19th century, contributing to flamenco dance, and less so to the music; accompanied with the loud emotionalism of this 'club' or cafe excess that most people mistakenly regard as genuine. But it is entertaining while the wine flows and it does 'sell'.