I wasn't really including you in the "bloody revolution" bit, Little Hawk. But judging from many of the things you've said regarding the way things work in the United States (most of which I agree with you about), you do sound rather defeatist. Maybe not, but it sounds that way.

The Coffee Party folks are fully aware of the situation. And the fact that it's pretty dire. But--they're not defeatist about it. They're convinced that something can be done about it. And they're setting about doing it, with some intelligent planning.

I find that preferable.

Don Firth

P. S. Now watch how long it takes for you-know-who to tell me I'm naive, idealistic, and especially unrealistic.