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Thread #134584   Message #3063071
Posted By: Little Hawk
29-Dec-10 - 01:36 AM
Thread Name: BS: Hillary Clinton to resign?
Subject: RE: BS: Hillary Clinton to resign?
What you describe the Coffee Party people doing sounds very good to me, Don, and I wish you the best of luck. I can't be defeatist about the USA, because I'm not myself a part OF the USA. I am viewing the situation from outside your borders, and I consider the present ruling order in the USA to be the enemy of not only their own people, but in a sense...of the entire world. I view the USA rather like someone in France or England in the mid-30's might have viewed the formative years of Nazi Germany (though I'm not suggesting that the USA has gone quite that far down the road to perdition yet...but the tendencies to do so are there quite strongly). There were progressive forces in Nazi Germany who resisted the Nazis too, both before and after Hitler's rise to power, and they deserved support from outside Germany. I support any Americans who resist the corrupt corporate order they are presently under. I don't recommend that they resist that order through violence, though, I recommend that they resist it through peaceful and positive social, political, and individual action.

You see, I want to see the present ruling forces in your country defeated....but not through violence! I want to see them defeated through people becoming aware of the real situation and not passively supporting them any longer, not buying into the wars they sell and the divisions they promote. I want to see people wake up.

The defeat of the present corrupt order that rules America (I'm not referring to Mr Obama when I say that) would not be a defeat for the people of America, Don...it would be a victory for the people of America and for the world.

My feeling is that the present system Americans are under will inevitably bring itself down...by bankrupting itself. That will be very hard on people, not just in the USA, but all over the world. I'm sorry to see it happen that way. I imagine if I'd been witnessing the fall of the Roman Empire, I'd have been sorry to see that happen that way too...but it did inevitably happen. It always happens when an empire simply goes too far in its ambitions and spends too much on war, and the American empire has, in my opinion, gone too far. I await its fall, but I do not wish violence on anyone.

Something else will rise out of whatever change occurs. Something always does. Rather like the phoenix...societies are born again.