Point taken Don. What I was trying to say was that in my life, the impression I have got is that regular hidings from the Australians have been the order of the day for most of the time. It seems to be the natural order. Of course I am being subjective there. Had I been born at a time in which England had more success, I would doubtlessly perceive things differently. I do not want to prove anything which is incorrect, it is just that I can recall very few England successes against Australia - or indeed until quite recently - against the West Indies either!