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Thread #134829   Message #3071390
Posted By: Donuel
10-Jan-11 - 12:06 PM
Thread Name: BS: AZ Congresswoman Giffords shot
Subject: RE: BS: AZ Congresswoman Giffords shot
old dude, I feel you are crossing one bridge too far to equate the rhetoric of the Reagan era to the white hot rhetoric today. I know your point has to do with a twisted mind is to blame rather than a political act of hate. However, the man who shot Reagan was trying to impress Jodi Foster in his delusional love affair.

I disagree with you in the same way that I disagree with Juan Willimas who said that liberals refused to jump to a hate motive for the Ft Hood shooter because he was Muslim, but liberals are hypocrits for immediately saying the Arizona shooter's motive was a political vendetta of hate.

I never felt that the Ft Hood shooter acted for any reason other than hate. If certain people were overly cautious in applying a motive for the Ft Hood killer, it was probably due to trying to avoid mass hysteria and stop a potential backlash directed at all Muslims in this country.

I stand by what Sheriff Dubnik said.

It might be good to hear from some public officials who have not been subject to violent threats recently...but it just may be that they're aren't any.

I monitor right wing radio and as a result I have no doubts the perpetual programing of hate, retribution and fear has brought a third of the people in this country to want to pull a hair trigger of vengence directed primarily at Obama, Democrats, women, gays, liberals, blacks, Jews, Mexicans, immigrants, Muslims and even you old dude.





After the Oklahoma bombing Rush LImbaugh wrote an Op Ed piece title "Why I am not to blame". There was no contrition.
Gretchen Carlson on morning FOX cable station said she understood why Gifford was shot because she voted for Obamacare. Again, no contrition.
These people (there I go again) see nothing fundamentally wrong for even thinking that a vote for National Health care should naturally cause some people to be shot.

The sickness is deeper than rhetoric.

Five years ago my fundamentalist right wing Christian neighbor saw my 4 year old climb into our family car on a hot August day a mere 10 seconds before I came out the front door. I did not see my son so I began searching all around the front and back yard and inside the house. My neighbor stood a mere 30 feet away and never said a word until I finally rechecked the backseat after about 15 minutes of my yelling my son's name. Later the neighbor walked part way across the street and said to me that he new my son was in the car all along.

I knew he hated liberals and atheists amd all the rest of the usual suspects but I had not imagined that his hate would be so great as to allow my son to die in a hot car.

That was an awakening for me.