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Thread #134829   Message #3072494
Posted By: Slag
11-Jan-11 - 06:50 PM
Thread Name: BS: AZ Congresswoman Giffords shot
Subject: RE: BS: AZ Congresswoman Giffords shot
Donuel "This is what I expect from Glen Beck today." Talk about setting up a Strawman! And I notice that others have already run with it as if he has already uttered what you have imagined. Could this be what is wrong with much of the discourse in this country?

Mousethief, Huh? Man, I agree with you! Fund it! Worthwhile programs are always worth the funding. It would be a true benefit to society.

AS for Palin's spin, I am disappointed that she and her company decided to try and spin it instead of owning it. They should bar her from the "No Spin Zone" for that one. Her original approach probably works fine in Alaska and as I said, it's a common figure of speech which could been seen as a sports allusion as in target shooting. For her to try and spin it at this late date smacks of guilt and cover-up and for what? She is light-weight and if she ever had any political asperations beyond Alaska, that's over. Good bye Sarah.

And as for digging up the Democrats' use of targeting symbols someone above has already demonstrated some above. Common knowledge and a big "So-what?" It is part of the language. Personally, I like "Ballots, not Bullets"!

I would not think of answering Sharon Angle's most unfortunate statement. She shot herself in the foot with that one, you might say. It demonstrates not even a basic understanding of what this great country is all about, supremacy of the law and democratic representation which supercedes any individual's viewpoint.

Genie, I hope your ignorance of guns is not indicative of your overall fund of information. Apparently you did not read some of the others' explanations of what constitutes a fully automatic weapon or a "macnine gun". I have a little expertise in the area and you do not. Hint, there is not such thing as a 30 round chamber. Glock 19s come in cal. .22, 9mm, cal. 40 S&W (of which I own one) and .45ACP. 30 round clips are made for these weapons but they are not legal in my state (10 round only, with certain exceptions) and many other states also. A 30 round clip would extend below the grip four or five inches and would all but deny any concealability. Were is truly a "machine pistol" it would be virtually uncontrollable after the first round or two. It is difficult to keep an automatic longarm on target as the recoil makes it want to climb. BTW, he fired 20 rounds according to the news report I heard which would jibe with the NATO version (Beretta) whic holds 19 rounds in the clip and one in the chamber. There are many other points wrong with your argument but as I said in the first place, it is only incidental to the event and dead is dead. If he had thrown a bomb it would have been just as tragic. THE GUY WAS A NUTCASE! He would have found the means to carry out his insane deed regardless of law or avilable means. We need to advance the discussion and move off this point.

Bobert, I'm a California native and lived through the Left's big push to free those being illegally held in mental facilities back in the day. They argued that it was just a means of extending a prison sentence indefinitely. And were they ever surprised when Gov. Reagan agreed with them. I guess they didn't realise that it was going to save the state a ton of money to free those poor unfortunate souls. You might find it odd but I too, was involved in social work or a sort in the 80's myself in SF and Sausalito and had much interaction with folks on the street who had been turned out of the mental institutions. Let's not rewrite history. I say shame on both side for making a political football of these impaired folks and their families and friends. I know personally of two family members in one community who died at the hands of a son who was released.