In my book suicide is murder... It is the one sin that cannot be forgiven...

And one does have to wonder how many suicides would be prevented if there weren't so many guns... Can't be proven one way or another... Yeah, one can make a statement that "Ralph would have just found another way to kill himself"... That is opinion...

So to say that suicide has nothing to do with handgun violence is your opinion, Q... Maybe you haven't personally had to deal with a family member who has committed suicide... Ask folks who have... It most certainly is violence... Like I said, the only sin for which God cannot forgive...

B~