Bobert, this is what I was replying to: "In the military you are taught to obey regardless of the orders... The military isn't democracy... You obey orders... Period... I had a Sargent (Haney) once tell us that if he was ordered to kill his mother he'd do it... That is obedience..."

There ARE people who believe what you said, that soldiers HAVE to follow orders, no matter if they're illegal or legal. The problem is that they're dumb enough to believe that. I don't think that we're disagreeing on much. I think that people should be held accountable for what they do, no matter who told them to do it. The disagreement comes with how much responsibility the people telling them, or hinting about what they should do have.

I'm not ready to see other people as responsible for a person's actions. People can be influence to hate someone, but if a person can kill someone just because Beck or Limbaugh tells them to, they probably should be under supervision 24/7. Then we get back to woulda/shoulda/coulda noticing when somebody's gone over the edge.