Bill you are comparing apples and oranges ... Buckley was a scholar who engaged in respectful discussion and debate to understand the issue and reach an acceptable result. These shows are shock value TV with people who make their living out of conflict. Completely different people and forums.

Kinda like comparing Bill O'Reilly discussing 2nd Amendment and a "face the nation discussion on it" one is a real discussion on an important topic, the other is just over the top hype for ratings.