Patsy... smoked picnic shoulder sells for 99p a pound here at times. You lose about two pounds of fat and bone on an 8 pounder, but it is still a great buy. I do mine simple... remove the fat (an inch thick, dice it and it's bird food) cut it into large chunks with a fair amount of meat left on the bone. Boil for an hour. Remove it and carve. Spuds, carrots, green string beans, cabbage quartered, barley and the bone. Unreal taste.