Dave, would there not have been some outcry from the community, or the liberal press, if that were the case?

Probably, Keith, probably. Like I said. I don't have the answer like some seem to think they do. I just know it's a difficult, distasteful and often dishertening subject.

When people get so tied up in whether the crime is a racial or cultural one they loose track of the unfortunate victims I think it may be time to call it a day. Surely it should just suffice to say that these people are criminals of the worst kind. Maybe if identifying why there is a spate of predominantly asian gangs doing these attrocius things in the UK then it would help to stop them. But we all know such arguments are primarily for our own self gratification and to show how much more intelligent our arguments are than our neighbours.

In this case I am afraid none of them are. Including this one. Sorry.

D.