""Only 17 cases of this particular crime actually.

Even in those areas, they are much less than half the population, so they are massively over represented.""

You are doing it again!!!

Only seventeen cases involving Pakistani or Muslim defendants, and an unknown number of cases which did not involve those groupings......i.e. White perpetrators.

Now, are you going to insult everybody's intelligence again, and pretend that the foregoing isn't true?

In just the five years from 2004 to 2009 there were 1330 cases of sexual grooming nationwide. There are no figures for the other eight years, but it seems reasonable to assume that the 1330 would be at least doubled.

The area under discussion would surely have produced many more than seventeen of those.

In answer to your reliance on cut'n paste from newspapers, here's one for you to read.

""Joan Smith   The Independent


The truth is more prosaic, in that these horrific crimes against children are not racially-motivated in the obvious sense; bluntly, they are about a business opportunity. Gangs are making money out of a demand for very young girls, and Straw is right to suggest that the victims who are most easily available tend to be white.

It's an undeniable fact that many of the defendants in these cases are from a Pakistani background. But there's no evidence that men from one ethnic origin are more likely to abuse girls than any other. External trafficking to the UK often involves gangs from Eastern Europe, but that isn't to say there's something in the genetic make-up of Russian or Ukrainian men that makes them more likely to turn young women into sex slaves. Former Soviet states have high levels of unemployment, alcoholism and domestic violence, conditions in which sexual abuse and trafficking flourish.""

What makes your sources right and this one wrong?

Don T.