This Debate was finished off long ago.

Thre is no testimony here that would be admissable in any academic paper, or in any court of law, to support the hypothesis that Moslem Culture is any more likely to influence young AND OLD men to become involved in organized sex crime than any other cultural influence.

All we have is a foregone conclusion masquerading as a hypothesis that is being defenced tooth and nail by its adherents, all plodding on with their blinkers on like a bunch of shirehorses.

And any suggestion that they might be wrong is taken as Bashing the West.

The reason for my post above is to show just one of many other significant influences on British Pakistanis that exist in addition to Islam.

One of these is the culture of the country where they live (Britain).

Much of Britain sexualizes its kids at a very early age.

If you don't believe me just type "sexualization of children in Britain" into google and see how many results come up.



Meanwhile MtheGM goes on like a Father Jack about "incontrovertible facts".

Ask him to produce any though, and the best you'll get is a list of the latest words he's looked up in the dictionary, not all of which he fully understands, but which after a few days of jiggling he can sometimes make look coherent.

It doesn't disguise the vacuity of his posts however, as he is completely ignorant of the facts, let alone what they signify, or for that matter what the discussion is actually about.

He is to be pitied ... if only I cared ...


Ake meanwhile sits like an easter Island head, silent for post after post, before repeating exactly what he said in his last post. He is a rock of ages in every way - hard, unmoving, and impenetrable - and as interesting to discuss anything intelligent with.

If you want to develop, improve on or widen your understanding, he is definitely not the man to talk to.

Not to mention Private eye 999, with his cape fluttering in the wind and his underpants on the outside, shouting like a neglected kid til someone pays attention.


You remind me of a guy I knew once who got angry after reading the first chapter of "Brave new World" because he reckoned it was a "paedo book".

I tried to explain to him that you need to read the whole thing before you know what its about, but he was steadfast.

Sad for him because he missed out on a great read.

I think some people are genuinely afraid to challenge their preconceptions and think the sky will fall down if they discover they are wrong.

So they push the same grindstone round and round and spend their lives justifying it.

Go condemn yourselves then.