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Thread #24959   Message #309266
Posted By: Malcolm Douglas
30-Sep-00 - 08:44 PM
Thread Name: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted - Part III
Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted - Part III
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FOX WENT OUT (Den-O) filename[ FOXOUT5  Sorcha has posted an .abc of a tune for this song, and Snuffy has now added the version sung by The Young Tradition, with words.  Both tunes seem to be related, but since this particular text is the Copper Family version, I've made a midi from the notation given in Bob Copper's book Early To Rise (1976).  Copyright Coppersongs 1976.

WI' MY DOG AND GUN filename[ DOGNGUN  This is more usually called The Mountain Streams Where The Moorcocks Crow.  Though I've only heard a very brief clip of the Silly Wizard version from which this text was taken (from So Many Partings), they seem to have used pretty much the usual Scottish tune, so I've made a midi from the version notated in John Brune's Roving Songster (1965), which has an almost identical text, bar a few minor differences; this will serve until somebody comes up with a transcription from the record.  There are a couple of mistakes in the DT transcription:  "you'll find my swelling" should of course be "you'll find my dwelling", and "...their so so sweetly" ought to be "...their song so sweetly.  There are also a few odd changes from the usual versions:  "I loved a robber" is usually "I loved a rover"; "lenties" is usually "linnets"; "millcocks" is usually "moorcocks".  The DT notes don't say where this version came from, but a quick search of the web reveals that Andy M. Stewart learnt it from older members of his family, who used to sing it a lot.

WHEN I WAS A YOUNG MAN (2) filename[ WHNYNGM2  Though the DT entry gives no source, this is the version that Martin Carthy got from the Duncan collection of songs from N.E. Scotland, and recorded on Shearwater (Peg Records PEG12, 1972, re-issued on Mooncrest CRESTCD 008, 1991).  A number of people have learnt it from Carthy and subsequently recorded it, Oisín amongst them.  Midi made from Carthy's recording.

Malcolm