With the best will in the world, everybody is making the best ayyempts thay can to respond to your posts, but if the precondition is to accept we are all racists and that our aims are motivated by right wing malice - well its a bit of a problem.

Having said that Brian, I can't believe you are that naive. Knowing the track record of the Daily mail for supporting every bit of right wing nastiness available to humankind, quoting them in such a debate is a bit like saying, 'I believe Mein Kampf hes some trenchant points to make on this subject.'

Buy it for the free dvds if you must, but don't read the bastard.