Well, I agree with your last point 100%, Steve; but I fear & suspect that 'wishing' will be as far as we get. And I agree that RC-ism has much to answer for. But I don't think there has ever been any Holocaust-denial in official Vatican policy; and I repeat that I don't think there is a Catholic country where it is a judicial capital offence to apostasise, or a Catholic tradition whereby young women are routinely killed by their supposed nearest & dearest for having different tastes and expectations with regard to marriage partners. And I feel we have here that sort of "Hegelian leap" whereby a quantative difference becomes a qualitative one. Islamism has just take their concept of their faith beyond all humanitarian reason, and I don't think replies of "Well what about ··· then?" are going to ameliorate this fact.

~M~