The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #109568   Message #3096008
Posted By: Gibb Sahib
15-Feb-11 - 05:54 PM
Thread Name: Lyr Req: Shiny-O or Shiney-O (chantey)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Shiny-O or Shiney-O
Just to clarify and be more specific--

The notation in Hatfield's article for "Shiny-O" has a notational "typo" in the third measure. The most likely scenario for how it was meant to be is that the second to last note, instead of a dotted quarter note, should read as a dotted eighth.

shipcmo's notation, just above my post, reflects the Hatfield notation exactly; the typo is in the original article, not the notation here.

Hatfield's shanties in the article have a few other fishy notation issues. This is quite common, as these guys (and gals, e.g. Hatfield's daughter who helped notate) were not musicologists! Hugill's Shanties from the Seven Seas is notorious (in my book) for lots of notational flubs -- some of which have been read literally by "revivers"...resulting in some new melodies! :) It is too bad that people like Hatfield and Hugill did not record themselves singing ALL the chanties they remembered.