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Thread #135716   Message #3096385
Posted By: Lizzie Cornish 1
16-Feb-11 - 08:21 AM
Thread Name: Mumford & Sons at the Brits Awards
Subject: RE: Mumford & Sons at the Brits Awards
No, 'Guest' I ain'. I'm someone who The Folk Mafia ganged up on, Jim Moray included, sadly, to silence my voice on the BBC board. It started because I dared to like the wrong band, and from Day 1 I was singled out for the most astounding nastiness I've ever come across, anywhere.

This came at me from those within the world of fRoots, and it's supporters, who...at the time...*****loathed***** the band I was writing about, that band being Show of Hands, along with Seth Lakeman et al.

I noticed pretty fast that the folk world, the English one at least, seemed to be almost a vast 'family' of artists, who were all pretty much related and supported by the same group of people, many of whom had started out in the folk world alongside them, in many different ways, either as fellow musicians, or as the audience.

There seemed to be very much an attitude of 'this is OUR world, so why the fook don't you bugger off and leave it and us alone!'....

Of course, I stayed, so they decided to make life very unpleasant for me. I was lied about, complained about, posts of mine disappeared due to those complaints..Over here one of the very posters on this thread, a very 'holier than thou' one too, dragged the most personal details of my life onto this board, threatening to discuss things with my husband, who at the time I was divorcing. It was unbelievable...

Then, something odd started to happen...and the new way of dealing with me was to start loving all that I loved. The poster concerned took over 'artistic director' of Sidmouth Folk Week and became good buddies with Show of Hands, supporting them wherever she could, after being so astonishingly abusively rude about them on the BBC board for a very long time.

The strategy worked and they allegedly became accepted by The Folk Mafia, joining forces with the very people they'd stood on stage and lambasted for being so controlling, in the past....

Hmmmmmmm......


From Al:

"Mumford and sons will take care of themselves. So will Show of Hands. its the little people excluded by the folk mafia, who have been damaged."

Absolutely, Al. I agree with that sentiment 100%. There are some very spiteful and controlling folks in this world, believe me I've been doing battle with them for a very long time, so I know just how vitriolic they can be, and how determined to damage the reputation of anyone who dares to disagree with them.

I'm kinda stunned, to be honest, that they're even over here on Mudcat, because they've publicly stated how much they loathe this place..and of course, over on the fRoots board they regularly describe the posters here as 'fuckwits'

Great to know that these are the charming and loving people who are running so much of the folk world, eh?

Still, at least it means that those they support get to win Folk Awards year after year after year with no troubled waters ever rippling the careers of the Luvvies, who actually, imo, should have the guts to stand up themselves and say "You know what, we'd really like next year's Award to go to someone else, because this constant backing of us gives no help to any other artists out there...Thanks anyway."

I once loved Sidmouth Folk Week, Sidmouth International Festival, it's why I wrote 15,000 words about the first ever Folk Week, in a 'live' thread on the BBC, to drum up interest, to let the world see that Sidmouth WOULD survive...

At the time, I had no idea, being very naieve, that the very people who now run Sidmouth had been planning to take it over a few years down the road, and had actually wanted the festival to close down completely, so that the town would realise what they were missing....

The good men and true stepped in and saved Sidmouth, Gordon doing so with his own money, backing it 100%, knowing that if left to die, it may never rise again....HE saved that festival..and for that they stabbed him in the back...and the very folks who did it were.....yes, you guessed it, the Folk Mafia who surround the likes of Bellowhead et al...

It is something I will never forgive th em for, because that man was wondrous for Sidmouth...he alone saved it by doing what he did, because he loved Sidmouth with all his heart and soul.....I did too...but now I stay away, now I can't stand to be around it, because of those who now run it....

How sad is that????

And what a sorry state of affairs that folks within the folk world are so bloody embittered and controlling as to behave the way they did towards Gordon....and towards me.

This world is FILLED with wondrous music from so many OTHER people who never get a look in...and THAT is what angers me so much.


And by the way, George Papavgeris should be on the MAIN stage of most festivals...and he should be the winner of all sorts of Folk Awards too...Grossly overlooked...(sorry to embarrass you, George, but...it's true!)

Still, maybe next year they'll finally start to recognise Reg Meuross, George, Duncan McFarlane and a whole host of other artists too who've never before been given the recognition they so richly deserve...