"If you can find any actual deception by me,"
Posting as you did under an alias (and providing yourself with the support you were not getting elsewhere, as you also did) is deception Keith - as is trying to pass it off as a joke when you're caught out.
"It means they have lost the argument."
Sorry to be the bearer of (yet more) bad news, but superior argument 'wins' arguments, not (yet more) empty rhetoric.
I'd quite like to know what the 'child abuse' bit was all about as well.
Mike;
My 'religious' stance reference was made generally and should not have been addressed directly to you - I'm pretty sure you know where I stand spiritually.
Was under the impression that prostitution was one of the issues here - I apologise if I have misunderstood - will read through this somewhat tortuous thread again.
Jim Carroll