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Thread #135090   Message #3107090
Posted By: MGM·Lion
04-Mar-11 - 04:31 PM
Thread Name: BS: Muslim prejudice
Subject: RE: BS: Muslim prejudice
Well, OK, Jim: when I say "Nobody is doing anything of the sort", I am using, I thought, a recognisable idiom for "I am not doing anything of the sort."

And I really wasn't. I was worried by these disproportionate numbers. I felt an explanation should be sought. I did not seek it in any sense in a way that would have involved the entire Pakistani community, or in their 'culture', however defined; but did think it might be worth looking for it, in the effect that the conditioning of their young males ~~ which the marriage customs, which neither they nor anyone else seems to me to dispute, whereby many are not permitted access to young women outside their immediate family, but are expected to submit unquestioningly to marriage with a cousin arranged by both sets of parents, often without meeting, or meeting more than perfunctorily, until the actual wedding; sometimes with a journey to Pakistan by one or other of the parties being required ~~ might have upon some among that young male section of this demographic.

I have sedulously avoided blaming the whole community, or any considerable part of it (let alone your "all"!), or their culture as such. But I defy anyone to deny that such customs as I have rubricated above are part of the conditioned expectations of some young males of the community; some among whom might jib at such demands and expectations, and express their dissatisfaction by the sort of unfortunate behaviour we are speaking of here. Especially, I might add, in view of the undisguised contempt which some of the demographic express regarding the morals of some of the indigenous community's young female population, much of which in turn is observaby earned by the unhappy binge-drinking and other such unhappy public-behavioural habits of some of the young females concerned.

It seemed to me that some consideration of this combination or syndrome of factors might just go some way towards explaining these disproportionate statistics of convictions regarding this particular form of exploitation.

Now, Jim: rationally and dispassionately please ~~ have you anything to urge against these arguments as a possible, speculative, solution to the quest for a reason for these disagreeable phenomena?

~Michael~