I'm dealing with wankers here....Go away!

Thank you Mr Ralphie sir for improving my lunch break, even if I now have to remove the coffee spray from my monitor. Yes, what a lot of them. Is there a collective noun?

I'm entirely with you on the beleif that rather than sitting on bums and moaning, people should go out and do something positive, including learning what they're talking about. How many of the anti-Sidmouth and Heap/Crumpbashers on here have actually run a festival, including taking the financial responsibility for it. Sitting at home playing "Fantasy Festival Bills" is no substitute.

And next time our top moaner thinks a band is "too loud" - before you take this advice and toddle off and start a ceilidh series for shrinking violets, try looking at the hundreds of people enjoying dancing to the "loud" band and try to work out what you and your minority handful of miserable git cronies are missing. Also try accepting the radical idea that people are allowed to have different tastes and not everything can be done your way all the time.

One of the reasons the 60's English folk scene (and 70's punk that followed it) took off and enjoyed such big growths was that people found they weren't being catered for by the establishment so they went off and started their own clubs, bands, fanzines and so on, rather than sitting around moaning. Some learned how to do it very well.

What's the expression, "put up or shut up"?

Yes Ralphie, w***ers!