Michael. I don't care whether we call it lying or self-delusion. The point is that Keith (with your moral support, which appears to include hectoring of other posters with rudeness and insults) has focussed sharply on what goes on, sex-crime wise, in a couple of very restricted areas of the country. Areas with relatively large numbers of young Pakistani males. He is being exceptionally selective in choosing to point just to these instances whilst ignoring the generality of sex crimes in the country as a whole. He's your mate so perhaps you could elicit from him what his motive is. Grooming young girls for sex, gang rape, pimping, soliciting and trafficking have been merrily going on since Adam were a bloody lad, and certainly it was all going on long before there were Asian communities here. What some of us want to know from Keith, and you, is what's the point here?