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Thread #136154   Message #3113511
Posted By: Steve Shaw
14-Mar-11 - 10:58 AM
Thread Name: BS: Got Science?
Subject: RE: BS: Got Science?
So you have letters. So do I. Big deal. You can do better than that. Just for you, I've already expanded above on why I think evolution is true, but you don't appear to have read it yet. I have no idea why you think religion has anything to do with this. That is a not an equation that I would ever make. The theory of evolution is founded on a huge body of evidence. Religion is founded on not a single scrap of evidence. I can either believe something by dint of blind faith or I can believe something because I know of the evidence that supports it. Therefore if I say evolution is true I am not in the remotest sense making a religious statement. The sun is shining in Cornwall this afternoon. That is true. But that is not a religious statement. So stop being silly, eh?

Religion says "this is the truth and you'd better believe it". Science says "I wonder. Let's see what holes I can pull in this."

And I say that evolution is true, and I don't give a damn whether you believe it or not. All the evidence, all the knowledge we have amassed about living things points to the truth of evolution. I'm saying that we are well past the point of no return. You say that science is for pulling holes. Well let's hear you pulling enough holes in the theory of evolution to make it false. Cut out the philosophising for a minute and get down to the real nitty-gritty of the evidence. Show me evidence that undermines, in any real sense, evolution. You can't, because there isn't any. If I can never say that evolution is true, Mr Philosopher, about what can I ever use the word "true?" Or should we strike "true" from the dictionary? Which is not to say that the theory of evolution can never be modified as we discover more. You are obstinately refusing to see that these two positions are entirely compatible. And you brag about studying the philosophy of science.