Steve Shaw

So you have letters.

Not bragging just a futile attempt to stop you talking down to me in the same patronising way you do to Pete.

I've already expanded above on why I think evolution is true

No you haven't. In your post of 13 Mar 11 - 08:09 PM you simply reiterated the statement and in the following post you summarised the evidence in support of "Darwin's theory". You make a distinction between Evolution and The Theory of Evolution but you seem to have trouble distinguishing them yourself. I am no nearer understanding what you mean by "Evolution is true.".

And I say that evolution is true, and I don't give a damn whether you believe it or not.

Good Grief! Now you want me to "believe" things as well. Science isn't about belief, that's religion.

Show me evidence that undermines, in any real sense, evolution.

Do you mean evolution or the theory? It's hard to tell because you seem to use the terms interchangeably in that paragraph.

Let me make it clear (in the vain hope that you will stop attacking me for something I am not saying). The Theory of Evolution is one of the pinnacles of human achievement. It vastly increases our understanding of the natural world and our place in it. It is so overwhelmingly supported by the evidence that it is unlikely to be significantly changed in it's major points. But, as you concede, as a theory it cannot be described as "true".

What can be described as true? Facts, observations, measurements. The sun is shining in Cornwall fits that well enough.