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Thread #136446   Message #3116933
Posted By: Joe Offer
19-Mar-11 - 09:00 AM
Thread Name: BS: Another View of Religion
Subject: RE: BS: Another View of Religion
Well, Michael, it depends how you define God - and my contention is that God defies definition. Your wish for a less-imperfect body posits a God who writes a script according to an "intelligent design" model.
But I think you and I would agree that we came to be though a complex intermingling of coincidences and accidents and logical consequences, following the laws of Nature - we evolved. Our parents may have made a conscious decision to conceive us - or we may have had more serendipitous beginnings. Some people see a divinity underlying that process, and some don't. Whatever the case, the way we came to be is the same, whether we see divinity in the process or not.

So, if the force that created you was an "Intelligent Designer," then the fact that you are imperfect may be an indication that your Designer was less than perfect - but only if that's the way the process worked, but some Designer pulling strings.

But I think you and I would agree the we are more the product of accidents and coincidences that somehow came together to make us what we are. I rather like being accidental, but I'd agree that there are a lot of aches and pains and sorrows and imperfections that I'd rather not have.

But rather than seeing the Divinity as being the Causer of the process by which we came to be, I see divinity in the essence of the process. Or, at least that's how I would define it from today's perspective. My perspective is likely to change tomorrow.

-Joe-