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Thread #126347   Message #3117570
Posted By: John Minear
20-Mar-11 - 11:57 AM
Thread Name: From SF to Sydney - 1853 Shanties Sung?
Subject: RE: From SF to Sydney - 1853 Shanties Sung?
My apologies to Ruaidhri for making B.F. Pond "Captain" of the "Julia Ann" a bit prematurely in my St. Patrick's Day posting above. Ruaidhri is absolutely right that it was C.B. Davis who was the "Captain" of her on the second voyage, which was the one that brought John Mitchel to San Francisco. On the first two voyages, Pond traveled as "super cargo" (is that the proper term?) representing the owners. He is listed as "Master"/"Captain" on the third and fourth voyages. In addition to the reference above in Mitchel's Jail Journal, which says,

"We were made as comfortable on board the Julia Ann as the narrowness of the accommodations and crowd of passengers admit Capt. Davis, of Newport, Rhode Island, is our commander; and owner, Mr. Pond, of New York,is also on board." (p. 197),

here are two links to early postings in this thread where I made this a little more clear:

thread.cfm?threadid=126347&messages=650#2808140

thread.cfm?threadid=126347&messages=650#2810350

[This discussion continues in subsequent postings following the one above.]

Welcome to our ongoing discussion Ruaidhri. We are very glad and honored to have a direct descendent of Captain Davis as a participant. My first question to you is, of course, do you know of any chanties being sung on board the "Julia Ann" on that second voyage? Or, do you know of any chanties being sung at all in the first half of the 1850's in either California or Sydney? And, do you have any family history that talks about any chanties being sung on any of Captain Davis' voyages? We are looking for all of these things here.

Your question about the ship's name is a new one. I think if you follow the links in the early postings on this thread they will document that it was the "Julia Ann" on the Mitchel voyage and on the later shipwreck voyage. I don't have a good explanation for the apparent discrepancy. It does seem probable that we are talking about one and the same ship and set of voyages. Here is a link to a previous posting that sums up the latest information I have about these four voyages:

thread.cfm?threadid=126347&messages=650#2872740

I look forward to hearing more from you.