Mike
Really not got time for this as we're off in an hour or so.
Up to the point where you indicated it a few posts ago "I must add that, with my racial origins of which you are quite aware, " I really was not aware of your racial origins.
It seems to me that the events of the 20th century, especially those which happened (just) within my lifetime, should have taught us the lesson that if you take a lie, a rumour, an isolated occurence, and repeat it again and again and again and again..... pretty soon it will stick, will grow and will attach itself to all around, until it becomes not just a Notting Hill incident, or Brixton, or London's East End.... or wherever, but a nigger, or Jewish, or Pakie one.
This is exactly what Keith has done here.
Nobody is denying that there are criminals and perverts in the British Pakistani communities, as there are in any other British community (a fact you have chosen not to comment on in your attempts to debunk my 'thrusts' suggestion).
Keith has finally said, after much pressure, "as far as we know in just these Northern towns and cities", but in the meantime he has made this one of the biggest threads on this forum, containing all the racist bile (5 pages of it) I gathered together (we still don't know whether he claims they are all the (unspecified) cities or just small districts within those cities). In the intervening period he has attempted to implicate not just those few involved in the incidents but the British Pakistani population and their culture as a job lot.
Keith has more than proved his sectarian pedigree in the past with his enthusiastic support for violent and abusive demonstrations of force in Northern Ireland (see the Have a Good 12th of July thread), and here continues his theme, this time with Pakistanis, and, as with Northern Ireland, using selective and distorted evidence.
Anyway, must be off - good luck with your appeal for support, "how does anyone else perceive the "thrust" of Jim's arguments, I wonder?"
Sorry I won't be here during the next couple of days give you mine (or not, as the case may be).
Jim Carroll