pete:

Your answer to me..."tia-i would say that evolutionism starts with a non negotiable pre supposition also.difference being, it has a lot more room for adjustment ,which i think it has often utilized."

Is just about dead on, but contains an internal contradiction, that if cleaned up, puts you in exactly the right spot for science.

A "non-negotiable starting point with room for adjustment" is an oxymoron.

If we simply say "a starting point with room for adjustment (which is in fact *very* often utilized)", **now** we are talking about science.

Cheers