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Thread #135090   Message #3120773
Posted By: Lox
24-Mar-11 - 07:23 PM
Thread Name: BS: Muslim prejudice
Subject: RE: BS: Muslim prejudice
"Sure. To be clear, I'm not commenting on the piece's author, or indeed the source. But considering the context of the comment,"

Lively, I'm afraid this comment is wasted on Keith.

Actual content is not relevant in his eyes.

He is all about the social status and/or race of the commentator, not about the content of their comments.

Consequently, in his view, Straw Cryer ahmed etc are all qualified to form psychological diagnoses, without any kind of diagnostic procedure, of people they do not know EN MASSE.

Their qualifications are either being Moslem or being Prominent public figures.

Its a wonder we bother employing psychologists and psychiatrists at all when we have these intuitive mind readers to diagnose whole communities for us.


"And that the subject is certainly worth discussing. To be clear, hundreds of reports of allegations, is sufficient for me to form that conclusion."

Indeed - these are extremely serious and controversial allegations and therefore it is essential that they be fully and properly investigated.

Thankfully, the Dando institute has begun that process, and consequently we have more information than just reports of allegations.

Amongst other things, the authors concluded that street grooming is not a new crime type, and that we can deduce nothing about race.

There is also a second investigation being carried out by Ceop.


So yes, it is important that serious allegations should be properly discussed and investigated.

And it is also essential that the conclusions of the investigators are not ignored as keith is doing.

To draw conclusions based on the fact that Allegations have been made, while ignoring the investigation that they sparked, indicates rejection of its findings.


PS - It doesn't matter how many people say that they have heard that allegations have been made, that does not constitute an accumulation of circumstantial evidence.

If we had an accumulation of actual witness testimony, actual first hand allegations, that would be different.

But we don't.

We don't even have one example.

Keith can't provide ANY.

We just have estimates, guesses, projected psychological profiles and slander.