---Pakistani culture imposes such a high standard on its people that their young men do what all young men do in similar situations, no matter what their racial origins - go elsewhere for their pleasures and perversions. I asked once before and never received a reply - what would you have them do - lower those standards in order to keep 'our white girls' safe?---

I must differ, Jim, about the "height" of these standards, and object again to your use of the over-wide & overdefined term "CULTURE" HERE, WHEN YOU MEAN "CUSTOMS", WHICH ARE ONLY A SMALL PART OF THE OVERALL CONCEPT OF "CULTURE" [bugger this obtrusive shiftlock: sorry, not shouting really!], which is both an emotive and a far too non-specific word to be used in this connection.

They are not "high" standards: they are different ones, alien to the way of proceeding in regard to marriage which is traditional in this country. I have never thought it in any way "racist" to evoke the fine old principle of "When in Rome", and suggest that those who opt to come and share our facilities with us because they prefer them to those of their own original environment can be reasonably expected to adjust their expectations to a rational degree to the expectations they find when they arrive. It is surely at least arguable that the failure of the older generation to do so, and their insistence on imposing their imported expectations on to their younger generation, who can see all around them the signs of a less exigent set of expectations, could be at least a contributory factor to the phenomenon we are discussing on this forum.

So the answer to your question is that their changing their expectations to be more concordant with those of the community in whose midst they have chosen to come and participate would be a welcome *alteration* of their standards, rather than in any way a "lowering".

In summary, I do not perceive their standards as "high", they are rather, IMO, unreasonable and incongruous with their adoptive lifestyle.

You seem to me to be obstinate & unreasonable, Jim, in not even agreeing to consider such a possibility as I suggested in the para before last, and in persisting in immoderately and offensively impugning the motives of others more rationally inquiring with shrill and hysterical cries of "racism".

~M~