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Thread #135090   Message #3121216
Posted By: GUEST,lively
25-Mar-11 - 09:10 AM
Thread Name: BS: Muslim prejudice
Subject: RE: BS: Muslim prejudice
"If we had an accumulation of actual witness testimony, actual first hand allegations, that would be different.
But we don't.
We don't even have one example."

Lox, here is one first hand witness testimony by way of an Independent article back in end January: "They Like Us Niave"

With particular reference to some of the points being made here: "Emma believes, on the basis of her own experience, that there was something in the culture of second- and third-generation men from the Indian sub-continent that drew them into such activities. "White girls are classed as lower," she says. "These men class women as lower anyway, but white women are lower still. And in their tradition, girls become women at 12, so perhaps they didn't think they were doing wrong with me."

I wouldn't personally draw any conclusions from her statement (and I'm not offering it as "evidence" in support of any arguments being made here either), other than that is her opinion based on her experience, but her statement raises questions for me about the problems of discussing sensitive issues surrounding race and culture at all. If for example, Emma was to make that statement here on Mudcat, would she be hounded off the forum by a group of angry liberals crying "racist!"?

I think there was a video interview conducted by the BNP of another victim. No doubt the fact that the interview was conducted by the BNP will render the testimony not credible in the eyes of most posters here (and of course I understand why) but I may try to find it, as it brings another important issue into the discussion. And that is the perception among some that (to put it approximately in the words of one victim's father) "No-body except the BNP gives a damn about this going on."