Well, the other thing we fail to take into account is human ingenuity and enterprise. People are very flexible and adaptable, and can, if necessary, drive less, wear more clothing, have higher per person houses, go back to how their ancestors lived somewhat.

There are economic solutions to some of the solar problems mentioned..such as amoritization by power companies, who would install and own the panels or windmills.

How does Denmark do it? How do others do it?

Does not have to be fossil fuels..certainly could be algae fuels or waste or pig manure etc..would have to look at industry by industry basis..how much fuels the physical plant and how much the actual machinery. There probably are ways to separate electricity sources.

People who are either forced to by economics or are induced to by economics, or social pressure, or whatever, can individually and collectively find ways to reduce, share, use utilities when cheapest, program machinery to do same, and invent new ways of doing stuff.

Another thing that has to happen is to release inventions and patents that already exist. I do not believe for a moment that big oil or big nuclear or whatever does not have lots of things in their back pocket and are able to turn things pretty rapidly around when they realize they must. mg